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Re: The Sodor Map

Post by Frankthetriviaman on Fri Sep 25, 2015 5:24 am

@ Toz

By 4 railways do you mean NWR, SR, CFR and Arlesdale railway?
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Post by luctheminecrafter on Fri Sep 25, 2015 10:16 pm

Im pretty sure. What others are there?
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Post by DonaldDouglasandToby6 on Sat Sep 26, 2015 1:14 am

Honestly I just accept anything (besides maybe TATMR) as canon. Or I just don't care. Just because you don't like something doesn't mean it didn't happen.
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Post by ThomasSirHandel on Sat Sep 26, 2015 3:28 am

DonaldDouglasandToby6 wrote:Honestly I just accept anything (besides maybe TATMR) as canon. Or I just don't care. Just because you don't like something doesn't mean it didn't happen.

Then what would explain everyone going out of character in Seasons 8-16? Seasons 1-4 would have to be a separate canon due to TAB and a possible sequel replacing most of Season 1 in the reconnected series which started in Season 5 for me. The locations from Season 6 Onward also don't resemble the sets from Seasons 1-4 like Maron is curved and Tidmouth Sheds got taller. You could say Knapford Yards changed in Seasons 2 and 3 but I list them as two different yards. CAE also has to be a different canon due to the 7 berth sheds appearing in TAB and Diesel 10 not staying nice in DOTD and Season 17.
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Re: The Sodor Map

Post by Frankthetriviaman on Sat Sep 26, 2015 4:57 am

@ luc-

The other Sodor lines? Well, although seldom mentioned there is that electric line
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Post by Toz76 on Sat Sep 26, 2015 6:11 am

Actually, that's a branch of the NWR.
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Re: The Sodor Map

Post by OneJ_ on Sat Sep 26, 2015 6:46 am

ThomasSirHandel wrote:
DonaldDouglasandToby6 wrote:Honestly I just accept anything (besides maybe TATMR) as canon. Or I just don't care. Just because you don't like something doesn't mean it didn't happen.

Then what would explain everyone going out of character in Seasons 8-16? Seasons 1-4 would have to be a separate canon due to TAB and a possible sequel replacing most of Season 1 in the reconnected series which started in Season 5 for me. The locations from Season 6 Onward also don't resemble the sets from Seasons 1-4 like Maron is curved and Tidmouth Sheds got taller. You could say Knapford Yards changed in Seasons 2 and 3 but I list them as two different yards. CAE also has to be a different canon due to the 7 berth sheds appearing in TAB and Diesel 10 not staying nice in DOTD and Season 17.

To be fair, just because a character is going out of character doesn't necessarily mean that season or episode takes place in a different canon. The engines and vehicles are pretty much beings and so therefore, they may act differently in a certain situation. Since they are in a sense beings, it is natural their personas may often branch off from their usual one because it is human nature and everyday we are in a sense exploring who we are as an individual just like how sometimes characters behave differently (Even if we don't agree with that persona change!).

The Adventure Begins is just a retelling of the RWS stories. The same goes for Season 1. Neither TAB nor Season 1 have to be in different canons due to drastic changes, more explanation, etc.

Yes the locations do have different looks, but that certainly doesn't mean that they are part of different canons either. Some of the locations could have easily been updated "behind the scenes." For example, Tidmouth Sheds was most likely renovated between Season 5 and 6. That was simple. Maron could have been renovated as well, though that station is on the main line. It is a possibility however. My point is that there are potential, but simple explanations on why, what or how something happened in the canon.
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Post by ThomasSirHandel on Sat Sep 26, 2015 7:41 am

I get what your saying but for me it's more simple to list Seasons 1-4 and the Railway Series as separate canons and Season 5 Onward as the reconnected series. If you include the TV Series the same canon as the Railway Series it's hard to deal with situations like Rusty to the Rescue and Stepney the Bluebell Engine. I consider Misty Island it's own canon or at least a dream due to the tunnel being boarded up again in Season 17. Also the sheds in Season 6 look pretty old to have been rebuilt between Seasons 5 and 6 and Tidmouth Sheds and Maron had their appearances in the current day in TAB most likely for Arc to save money. Crovan's Gate also looked different when it returned in Season 18 then in originally appeared in Season 4.

What I consider as separate canons
-Railway Series and Annuals (Only Awdry annuals are canon)
-The Extended Railway Series
-Seasons 1-4
-Thomas and the Magic Railroad
-The Reconnected Series (Season 5/6 Onward)
-Calling All Engines
-Misty Island Rescue
-Magazines (TV Series photograph magazines are separate then the drawings)
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Post by luctheminecrafter on Sat Sep 26, 2015 5:45 pm

So many canons! 

Although I think CAE and MIR could be the same canon: they don't contradict each other.
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Post by OneJ_ on Sat Sep 26, 2015 9:30 pm

Toz76 wrote:Peel Godred, in my opinion. It's the one place all four railways are really close to, so they could easily be extended that far.

I agree with you. Peel Godred town is the ideal setting for all four Sodor Railways to run through due to not only it's size and close proximity to the four, but the possibilities of industry among the four. I can see the Arlesdale, Culdee Fell and Skarloey Railways delivering or collecting aluminum and are involved in jobs dealing with power (The Power Station).
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Post by Diesel 11 on Sat Sep 26, 2015 11:02 pm

DonaldDouglasandToby6 wrote:Honestly I just accept anything (besides maybe TATMR) as canon. Or I just don't care. Just because you don't like something doesn't mean it didn't happen.
Personally, I do too.
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Post by ThomasSirHandel on Sun Sep 27, 2015 1:49 am

For me mostly everything since Season 5 is canon in the reconnected series except TATMR, CAE, Misty Island and Henry needing special coal episodes. Seasons 1-4 are replaced with TAB and the Railway Series in the reconnected series since Brenner likes staying close to the Railway Series. All Henry needing special coal episodes will be bad dreams from Gordon and Misty Island episodes will be bad dreams from Thomas and who ever else goes to Misty Island. Also Henry being shown in his new shape and Sodor looking like the present day in TAB could be a reference to how Seasons 1-4 became a separate canon.
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Post by DonaldDouglasandToby6 on Sun Sep 27, 2015 6:05 am

ThomasSirHandel wrote:I get what your saying but for me it's more simple to list Seasons 1-4 and the Railway Series as separate canons and Season 5 Onward as the reconnected series. If you include the TV Series the same canon as the Railway Series it's hard to deal with situations like Rusty to the Rescue and Stepney the Bluebell Engine. I consider Misty Island it's own canon or at least a dream due to the tunnel being boarded up again in Season 17. Also the sheds in Season 6 look pretty old to have been rebuilt between Seasons 5 and 6 and Tidmouth Sheds and Maron had their appearances in the current day in TAB most likely for Arc to save money. Crovan's Gate also looked different when it returned in Season 18 then in originally appeared in Season 4.

What I consider as separate canons
-Railway Series and Annuals (Only Awdry annuals are canon)
-The Extended Railway Series
-Seasons 1-4
-Thomas and the Magic Railroad
-The Reconnected Series (Season 5/6 Onward)
-Calling All Engines
-Misty Island Rescue
-Magazines (TV Series photograph magazines are separate then the drawings)

Redesigns happen all the time; it doesn't mean they didn't happen at some point. And the Railway Series and TV Series most likely are different canons but I mostly meant the TV Series as a whole as one canon. Honestly for a show about talking steam locomotives, their canons don't have to be so complicated. Laughing

Also, The Extended Railway Series is fanfiction.
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Post by ThomasSirHandel on Sun Sep 27, 2015 7:26 am

I was referring to the IOS books for what I meant by extended RWS. Also Brenner said he stays close to the RWS so you would think the writing team would reconnect Seasons 1-4 replacing those seasons with TAB and the RWS (the stories would of occurred in the style of TAB) in the Reconnected Series meaning Seasons 1-4 become their own canon.
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Post by luctheminecrafter on Sun Sep 27, 2015 8:42 pm

But the IOSRWS is the RWS as e-book form, no? There is NO difference.

NO BRENNER! YOU WERE SO GOOD TO US!
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Post by Toz76 on Sun Sep 27, 2015 10:08 pm

Um... just what is the "IOSRWS"?
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Post by luctheminecrafter on Sun Sep 27, 2015 10:11 pm

IOS (or ebook) RWS
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Re: The Sodor Map

Post by Tugboatfan4 on Sun Sep 27, 2015 10:52 pm

Anyways back on topic, the waterways of the Skarloey Railway are complicated on the new map. From the show, it's shown Lakeside is connected to somehow to the sea, due to the type of ships around the shore, but it is only connected to rivers that lead to nowhere on the map, even though there is a canal nearby connected to Norramby Bay, that leads into the wharf. Can anyone make sense of that?
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Post by ThomasSirHandel on Mon Sep 28, 2015 12:05 am

Luc Ha-Meatzben wrote:IOS (or ebook) RWS

I meant the books from where the wikia got the information for the timeline page.
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Re: The Sodor Map

Post by luctheminecrafter on Mon Sep 28, 2015 10:02 pm

Sodor: Its people, history, and railways? 

To Tug, we discussed this a while ago somewhere, but basically you can look at this map http://www.sodor-island.net/thomas_and_friends_hit/map.html
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Post by ThomasSirHandel on Mon Sep 28, 2015 10:19 pm

Luc Ha-Meatzben wrote:Sodor: Its people, history, and railways?[/url]

Yes. But mainly due to built and arrival dates.
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Post by DonaldDouglasandToby6 on Mon Sep 28, 2015 11:11 pm

Luc Ha-Meatzben wrote:But the IOSRWS is the RWS as e-book form, no? There is NO difference.

NO BRENNER! YOU WERE SO GOOD TO US!

...um....what do you mean by that last part
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Post by Diesel 11 on Mon Sep 28, 2015 11:12 pm

So, what's the IOS?
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Post by Tugboatfan4 on Tue Sep 29, 2015 1:07 am

Um I know what the map is, I'm asking about the weird layout on the waterways near the NG railway, I find it perplexing on how it's been shown to us previously and how it is now.
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Post by luctheminecrafter on Thu Oct 01, 2015 1:15 am

*sigh

The waterway begins at Skarloey where it flows down Cattle Creek (under Old Iron Bridge) to the Castle Lake and the Causeway. How the water gets around the causeway escapes me, but then the water flows down the Hawin Doorey to the ocean!
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