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Re: "It's Just For Kids" Argument

Post by luctheminecrafter on Sun Oct 11, 2015 9:21 pm

Kids won't watch everything. Even as a little kid I thought the HiT episodes were all horrid but a select few.
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Re: "It's Just For Kids" Argument

Post by TaffyTheTankEngine on Mon Oct 12, 2015 7:24 pm

Just a random question. Has anyone seen any "It's Just for Kids" statements in any consumer reviews/company statements/etc.

If you have, feel free to share them here.
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Re: "It's Just For Kids" Argument

Post by luctheminecrafter on Mon Oct 12, 2015 8:33 pm

When I looked it up, I got a bunch of stuff about religion Razz
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Re: "It's Just For Kids" Argument

Post by luctheminecrafter on Thu Oct 15, 2015 1:09 am

Sorry for double posting, but...

 Re: Wooden Railway Discussion

 by laG roiL Yesterday at 11:28 pm

They're children's toys, not scale models. (I know Take Along/Take-N-Play are more accurate, but they're still toys).

You traitor. I knew you had this in you.
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Re: "It's Just For Kids" Argument

Post by TaffyTheTankEngine on Fri Oct 23, 2015 8:26 pm

In found one in the reviews for the Oogieloves and the Big Balloon Adventure (One of, if not, the worst movies ever made and the most overrated on IMDB) on IMDB.

Why is everyone going crazy its a kids movie
8/10
Author: jacobcamp330 from United States
14 June 2013
I am reading all these negative reviews about the film and I don't understand

why people are getting so worked up. Oogieloves is a CHILDREN'S film. The way

it encourages the audience to participate is kind of revolutionary, especially in

this generation where there isn't pop-up video or sing-a-long so much. This is a

fun film for kids: it is colorful, it is creative and it is musical. Best of all, since my

children are at least encouraged to move along, I don't feel so badly letting them

watch this while I take care of some much needed things in the house.

Was the above review useful to you?

link: http://www.imdb.com/title/tt1520498/reviews?start=40
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Re: "It's Just For Kids" Argument

Post by DonaldDouglasandToby6 on Sat Oct 24, 2015 6:42 am

luctheminecrafter wrote:Sorry for double posting, but...

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 by laG roiL Yesterday at 11:28 pm

They're children's toys, not scale models. (I know Take Along/Take-N-Play are more accurate, but they're still toys).

You traitor. I knew you had this in you.

Neutral Okay that was pretty rude...

He was saying that the children's toys don't need to be like Bachmann. I don't see how that's a problem...
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Re: "It's Just For Kids" Argument

Post by Toz76 on Sat Oct 24, 2015 7:02 am

Best just to ignore it. They're always at each others throats.

Honestly, though, laG roiL is right. There's a difference between professional scale models and toys.
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Post by DonaldDouglasandToby6 on Sat Oct 24, 2015 3:59 pm

I know it's best to ignore it...but still, it gets under my skin sometimes. Doesn't help it's practically everywhere.

And yeah, I think so too. Imagine trying to argue that TrackMaster is actually on the scale of Bachm- oh wait. Razz
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Re: "It's Just For Kids" Argument

Post by TaffyTheTankEngine on Sat Oct 24, 2015 5:06 pm

Found another "It's Just for Kids" Review on IMDb. This time for Breadwinners.

Love this show!!!
10/10
Author: rosgood26 from United States
29 March 2014
My two kids and I love this show! I'm really not sure what all the negative reviews are for. Everyone is entitled to their opinion, I guess, but just because you don't like the show Breadwinners, it doesn't mean it's not good. It's just not good to you. Seriously, why would you wish for a kids show to be canceled? You do know that you don't have to watch it, right? If you don't like it, don't watch it! Turn the channel or read a book. I have no problem turning the channel when Sam and Cat comes on. I don't like that show. I don't wish for it to be canceled either. I know there are kids out there do that like it. Since Nic is a kids channel, the kids should say what's good and bad. My kids say Breadwinners is good! That's the only proof I need that the show is good. All I know is this show makes my kids happy. They sing the songs all day long. I must admit they I also do myself sometimes. Bring on season 2!!!!!
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Re: "It's Just For Kids" Argument

Post by DonaldDouglasandToby6 on Sat Oct 24, 2015 7:43 pm

...okay, so....first off, kids would probably also say literally anything is good so...that argument doesn't hold much water.

Second, since they said "oh it's not just good to you" then by their logic I could say "Well that just means the show is good for you."

This sort of thing just...ugh.
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Re: "It's Just For Kids" Argument

Post by Toz76 on Sat Oct 24, 2015 9:17 pm

Actually, I have to agree with him. If the target audience likes it, who cares what everyone else thinks? It's like getting a three-year-old's opinion on Breaking Bad. They won't understand the adult version of quality, and we don't understand theirs. Like I said earlier, quality is subjective.

(That said, Breadwinners makes no sense at all.)
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Re: "It's Just For Kids" Argument

Post by Frankthetriviaman on Sun Oct 25, 2015 5:17 am

A lot of what Nivkelodeon put out now is bad quality though... I mean seriously, what's the deal with pig goat banana cricket? Are they that low on ideas?
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Re: "It's Just For Kids" Argument

Post by luctheminecrafter on Sat Oct 31, 2015 12:52 am

Pig goat banana cricket?
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Re: "It's Just For Kids" Argument

Post by TaffyTheTankEngine on Wed Nov 18, 2015 3:40 pm

As much as we hate these "it's Just For Kids" arguments, not all of them are bad. It can also be used to defend something that is really good, but the fandom of that certain TV show, really hates it (for example Henry Spots Trouble T&E Season 19 and Brotherhooves Social My Little Pony Season 5).

The most important thing is this: Most really good Kids TV shows are kids TV shows, always have been, always will be. Yes you can make something for the fans of the show, but the most important thing is you have to make sure a certain episode entertains the kids, without talking down the audience.
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Re: "It's Just For Kids" Argument

Post by Tugboatfan4 on Thu Nov 19, 2015 3:32 am

In order to better educate the future generation, we got to have good quality shows made that inspire, not dumb down their thinking process. TV is a big inspiration to children growing up, and is where most find answers to life's mysteries. If we don't provide something entertaining, but also educates. Think of it like a book, yeah weird example but, a good book will get you fascinated with it's lore and with get you hooked on the action ,while also educating you on the subject matter, real or not. That's what entertainment really is for through media like TV and books, if we don't give them something of high quality that helps, and just give them something just to keep them distracted, you're hurting the child's future in the long run. That's what makes me mad about shows or books you can obviously see were made because some boardroom executive said, "it's for kids, all we have to do is distract them, and we'll get the ratings and make money", they're just made to make a buck. That's why we got to put effort in our programing, if we don't it will make the next generation even worse then us. Luckily, shows are starting to be made with better intentions, but there are still some, and large majority, of brain-killers still lingering.
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Re: "It's Just For Kids" Argument

Post by luctheminecrafter on Fri Nov 27, 2015 6:12 pm

Honestly, I think one step should be telling a story instead of talking to the viewer.
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Re: "It's Just For Kids" Argument

Post by TaffyTheTankEngine on Wed Feb 17, 2016 9:44 pm

I found these two videos a while with go into this argument a bit further. The First video is basically why kids/cartoons shows aren't just for kids. The other one though is a little more interesting. it's about why people who even think this in the first place.





A good point brought up in the second video is you can make a animated film/show for adults, but you show NOT do the same just for kids.
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Re: "It's Just For Kids" Argument

Post by ThomasSirHandel on Fri Feb 19, 2016 9:55 pm

Yeah I find it annoying when people say cartoons are childish.
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Re: "It's Just For Kids" Argument

Post by Guest on Tue Jun 07, 2016 10:32 pm

I agree. And I think you nailed it. That's why I can't stand watching most preschooler shows, even as a 3 year old. Most of them, anyway. The only shows that I watched and enjoyed because they weren't like this was Arthur and Thomas and Friends (seasons 1-6).

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Re: "It's Just For Kids" Argument

Post by ThomasSirHandel on Thu Jun 09, 2016 7:18 pm

Oh yeah. This thread.
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Re: "It's Just For Kids" Argument

Post by TaffyTheTankEngine on Thu Jul 14, 2016 3:13 pm

Oh dear lord...

There was a case a while ago when this guy made a video criticizing fans of Thomas for liking a kids show, and fans went mad over this, giving him death threats, racist comments etc. I will leave this blog post from Chris Tomson to explain to you want happened:

http://ctopinionated.blogspot.co.uk/2016/07/here-we-go.html

But honestly, I've seen this, i have no idea what is actually going (i probably don't want to anyway), but i just have no words for this situation.
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Re: "It's Just For Kids" Argument

Post by ThomasSirHandel on Thu Jul 14, 2016 3:37 pm

Some people don't realize the classic series was intended to be watchable for all ages but when Hit brought all the rights to the franchise they changed the age group to only be suitable to small children.
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Re: "It's Just For Kids" Argument

Post by TheIsraeliSudrian on Thu Jul 14, 2016 3:43 pm

Including the current (Arc & Brenner) era? Lots of it is very close to the earlier seasons.
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Re: "It's Just For Kids" Argument

Post by ThomasSirHandel on Thu Jul 14, 2016 5:08 pm

While the recenter seasons are close to the classic series it seems like Hit is still promoting the target age group as small children where as the classic series and RWS seemed to be promoted towards a wider audience.
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Re: "It's Just For Kids" Argument

Post by TaffyTheTankEngine on Thu Jul 14, 2016 6:09 pm

You know whats funny? You do realize that it is adults that write and direct these children's shows (not just Thomas and Friends), so why are people complaining about Adults liking Thomas in the first place?
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