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Is Culdee's story about Godred true?

Post by luctheminecrafter on Fri Sep 11, 2015 10:20 pm

The book may suggest it, but how did Skarloey and Rhenes know that it was made up? And what did happen to Godred? 

I think that only the part about him being cannibalised is false.
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Re: Is Culdee's story about Godred true?

Post by The Steampunk Whovian on Fri Sep 11, 2015 11:22 pm

Culdee's story is true, it's only implied at the end of Bad Look-Out that the story was made-up so that young readers wouldn't be upset.

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Re: Is Culdee's story about Godred true?

Post by luctheminecrafter on Fri Sep 11, 2015 11:50 pm

Eh, I'm not sure kids would be upset at a ******* dying anyway. And surely they know what death is: scrapping was mentioned about a million times!
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Re: Is Culdee's story about Godred true?

Post by Diesel 11 on Sat Sep 12, 2015 12:49 am

Well, I still can't help being confused by this. After all, it said that Culdee made the story up, but if you read the ERS or anything else, even "Devil's Back", it seems like it was real. I know it's supposed to be real, but I'm still slightly confused.
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Re: Is Culdee's story about Godred true?

Post by Toz76 on Sat Sep 12, 2015 12:58 am

It's specifically stated in IOS that the story is true, and Awdry (or more likely the publisher) added the "made up" bit to cheer kids up. What more could be said?
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Re: Is Culdee's story about Godred true?

Post by luctheminecrafter on Sat Sep 12, 2015 1:11 am

But if they wanted to cheer kids up, they'd have to scrap Razz all mentions of scrap/train death!
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Re: Is Culdee's story about Godred true?

Post by Frankthetriviaman on Sat Sep 12, 2015 1:53 am

I always thought of the story as true based on the simple fact we see him in the flashback, but not in the present.
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Re: Is Culdee's story about Godred true?

Post by luctheminecrafter on Sat Sep 12, 2015 6:05 pm

Also, it happened on the Snowdon, so it must have happened here.
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Re: Is Culdee's story about Godred true?

Post by DonaldDouglasandToby6 on Mon Sep 14, 2015 3:56 am

luctheminecrafter wrote:But if they wanted to cheer kids up, they'd have to scrap Razz all mentions of scrap/train death!

To be fair, the Railway Series never got that gruesome. Besides Bluebells of England. I mean, this is a sentient being that got taken apart piece by piece, until he's nothing but a frame and a face.
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Re: Is Culdee's story about Godred true?

Post by TGC on Mon Sep 14, 2015 4:23 am

What I believe is that Godred DID fall, but he didn't get "took apart piece by piece" he was just under mass repairs
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Re: Is Culdee's story about Godred true?

Post by The Steampunk Whovian on Mon Sep 14, 2015 7:51 pm

Except every other canonical source agrees that he was scrapped and his remains were used as spares. It'd be nearly impossible to restore him after he fell from such a tall and large height.

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Re: Is Culdee's story about Godred true?

Post by luctheminecrafter on Mon Sep 14, 2015 9:51 pm

But wouldnt the parts be useless if they'd fallen down a mountain?
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Re: Is Culdee's story about Godred true?

Post by Toz76 on Tue Sep 15, 2015 2:45 am

Exactly. I highly doubt that he'd be useful for spares after that. All his individual components would be to damaged for him, let alone for spares.
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Re: Is Culdee's story about Godred true?

Post by Frankthetriviaman on Tue Sep 15, 2015 2:47 am

I'd imagine certain things could be repaired.

Again, Godred's story has to have some level of truth to it; otherwise he could have at least made a cameo in the "present-day" stories.
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Re: Is Culdee's story about Godred true?

Post by Toz76 on Tue Sep 15, 2015 2:55 am

Oddly enough, he did in the magazines, although it was most likely a replica.
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Re: Is Culdee's story about Godred true?

Post by Frankthetriviaman on Tue Sep 15, 2015 3:03 am

Fair point; but I don't think the magazines are officially canon though. (are they?)
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Re: Is Culdee's story about Godred true?

Post by Toz76 on Tue Sep 15, 2015 3:36 am

Canon in TTTE is a fickle beast. Some say yes, others no.
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Re: Is Culdee's story about Godred true?

Post by Frankthetriviaman on Tue Sep 15, 2015 3:39 am

Guess it is a matter of perspective then; I'll have to keep that in mind
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Re: Is Culdee's story about Godred true?

Post by DonaldDouglasandToby6 on Tue Sep 15, 2015 9:08 pm

Pretty sure it's not; if so, then events like Fiery Flynn happen twice.
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Re: Is Culdee's story about Godred true?

Post by luctheminecrafter on Tue Sep 15, 2015 10:39 pm

Even Henry's Forest would happen twice.

Anyone notice that Andrew Brenner was "writing" for the series as early as S3?
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Re: Is Culdee's story about Godred true?

Post by TGC on Tue Sep 11, 2018 6:21 pm

In the first story of Mountain Engines Culdee literally mentions that there were 5 engines on the first day the railway was open.
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Re: Is Culdee's story about Godred true?

Post by Diesel 11 on Sun Sep 16, 2018 2:10 am

Pretty sure it did happen, and Awdry just threw in that line to make it less dramatic for young minds. Obviously he had no idea what he was doing and all the trouble he'd cause for us poor fans... Razz
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Re: Is Culdee's story about Godred true?

Post by MainLineEngine112 on Fri Sep 21, 2018 2:51 pm

Here’s what I think: the story is undoubtedly true, and yes, the “made-up” aspect was written in to calm the kiddies, *but* from an in-universe perspective, it still needs to be explained somehow. Well, the way I see it, the in-universe explanation is the same as the out-of-universe one. Culdee just claimed it was fake so Skarloey and Rheneas wouldn’t be unnerved. Of course, freaking out Sir Handel and Duncan is fine tho Razz
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